COSTING --> ATHENA PID weekly regular meeting
Zoom
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Weekly news
Conveners briefly update with news, comments and new directions from the Steering Committee (if any).
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Roundtable updates
Updates from the main efforts with details about the progress in the activity. Please, be short and prepare a few (maximum three) slides focusing on what has been achieved since the last meeting.
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DIRC --> Costing
Advice on design, simulation, performance issues
Speakers: Grzegorz Kalicy (CUA), Joe Schwiening (GSI) -
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mRICH --> Costing
Simulation & performance studies
Speaker: Murad Sarsour (Georgia State University) -
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dRICH --> CostingSpeakers: Christopher Dilks (Duke University), Evaristo Cisbani (Italian National Institute of Heath and Italian Institute of Nuclear Physics)
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Low momentum PID with GridPix --> CostingSpeaker: Prakhar Garg (Stony Brook University)
everything has unit 1
--> there is a spreadsheet that contains the detail
--> detail can be provided in a dedicated sheet (tab)is testbeam part of R&D or of the project?
--> do R&D costs go in here? it was the case in sPHENIX
--> it is project R&D, it should be up here. detector R&D is on the projectwhat is the most uncertain part?
--> the GridPix chip, because there is only one provider (Bonn) that knows how to do it
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Low momentum PID with TOF --> CostingSpeakers: Wei Li (Rice University), Prof. Zhenyu Ye (University of Illinois at Chicago), Zhangbu Xu (BNL), Wenqing Fan, Frank Geurts (Rice University)
combine and call it LGADs for TOF
price of sensors based on CMS, pretty accurate
big hadron LGAD for tracking?
was it simulated? what is the space resolution?
can you use same mask, same pixelisation? was this simulated?
if you assume 30 um it can replace GEM (which is 50 um)large option covers what rapidity?
1.4 ? I think?
the need is between 1-2 where the bulk of particles is below aerogel threshold.
how much would it reduce the surface area? by 10% (only?)no labor cost yet, needs a couple of weeks
what is the cost difference wrt. GEM?
not fully costed, but there are numbers, not sure how far.
Elke: ~1.5-1.8 million (for hadron endcap) -
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B field impact on forward RICHSpeakers: Chandradoy Chatterjee (INFN Trieste (IT)), Roberto Preghenella (INFN Bologna)
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DAQ
Gathering DAQ requirements from PID WG
Speaker: Alexandre Camsonne (JLAB) -
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LGADs for TOF-PID
simulation & performance studies, design, cost estimate etc.
Speakers: Shuai Yang (Rice University), Prof. Wei Li (Rice University) -
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SiPM for RICH optical readout
R&D on SiPM as an option for the readout of the forward RICH
Speaker: Roberto Preghenella (INFN Bologna) -
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Pressurised argon for the gaseous RICH
mechanical studies and simulations for a pressurised argon vessel for the forward gas RICH
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LAPPD option for photon readout
R&D on LAPPD detectors must not be forgotten
Speaker: Silvia Dalla Torre (INFN, Trieste) -
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Barrel eCal with tracking and timing capabilitySpeakers: Maria Zurek (Argonne National Laboratory), Paul E Reimer (Argonne National Laboratory)
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Presentations
This is time devoted to a longer discussion with a presentation of work done or to be done, if there is any and if there is the need for that.
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AoB
In case there is any other business to discuss, we can take it here. If discussion takes longer than 5 minutes, it means that it needs a proper space and will be point for next week.
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