ePIC AC-LGAD TOF DSC Weekly Meeting Wednesday (10:30AM)
Wednesday 9 July 2025 -
10:30
Monday 7 July 2025
Tuesday 8 July 2025
Wednesday 9 July 2025
10:50
AC-LGAD TOF workfest @ JLab
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Satoshi Yano
(
Hiroshima University
)
AC-LGAD TOF workfest @ JLab
Satoshi Yano
(
Hiroshima University
)
10:50 - 11:10
Room: https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1617546118?pwd=qNzxLqF8Q4Mj3RerAZdVSELzEgEQzV.1
11:10
July test beam preparation at JLab?
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Zhenyu Ye
(
Laurance Berkeley National Laboratory
)
July test beam preparation at JLab?
Zhenyu Ye
(
Laurance Berkeley National Laboratory
)
11:10 - 11:30
Room: https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1617546118?pwd=qNzxLqF8Q4Mj3RerAZdVSELzEgEQzV.1
From: Zhenyu Ye <yezhenyu@lbl.gov> Subject: from Oskar: Request few lines of input for test beam update at TIC meeting next monday Below are beam tests that I am aware of/involved with Recent/completed test beams: 2022: AC-LGAD strip sensors from BNL IO, Fermilab Beam Test Facility, JINST 18 (2023) P06013 2022: FCFDv0, Fermilab Beam Test Facility, NIMA 1056 (2023) 168655 2023: AC-LGAD pixel and strip sensors from 1st HPK production and BNL IO, Fermilab Beam Test Facility, NIMA 1072 (2025) 170224 2024: FCFDv1, Fermilab Beam Test Facility Upcoming confirmed/approved test beam times: 7/14-7/20/2025: FCFD v1.1, DESY, FNAL/LBNL 7/16-8/13/2025: AC-LGAD sensors from 2nd HPK production, JLab Hall-D, LBNL/UCSC/UIC/LANL Fall: Japan Tohoku U electron beam (~1GeV)
11:30
TOF DAQ requirement
TOF DAQ requirement
11:30 - 11:50
Room: https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1617546118?pwd=qNzxLqF8Q4Mj3RerAZdVSELzEgEQzV.1
From: Zhangbu Xu <xzb@bnl.gov> Subject: Re: Timing Integration Discussion at Collaboration Meeting Date: July 8, 2025 at 10:21:28 AM EDT To: "Landgraf, Jeffery M." <jml@bnl.gov> Cc: Benedikt Zihlmann <zihlmann@jlab.org>, Satoshi Yano <satoshi.yano@cern.ch>, "Ye, Zhenyu" <zye@bnl.gov>, David Abbott <abbottd@jlab.org>, Fernando Barbosa <barbosa@jlab.org> Hi, Jeff and Satoshi: That is a good question. In addition to T0 impact, we have also tried different methods: Startless TOF when there are multiple particles resulting the collision We also studied the exclusive vector meson production with two tracks and a not-so-good T0. These are some of the solutions to the issues. Satoshi has done a study on single particle resolution requirement with T0 estimates. All these are case-by-case depending on the physics measurements. The requirements are quite different. The most stringent constraint is how much overlap is required between TOF and hpDIRC. In terms of item 3, I propose that we select pions at low momentum, which we should be able to cleanly Separate from other particles and use measured pion mass from TOF to track any slow phase drifts. Zhangbu On Jul 7, 2025, at 8:16 PM, Landgraf, Jeffery M. <jml@bnl.gov> wrote: Hello, I'm really sorry that this is coming so late, but I'd like to have a discussion regarding the timing requirements at the collaboration meeting. I think we really need to address this as an integration issue,,, There are a lot of requirements ranging from 20 ps - 40 ps quoted as requirements for the TOF detectors but we have a lot contributions from various components, many of which are on the order of 20-30 ps. These aren't just electronics, they also include the T0 determination and calibrations of the TOF detectors. The requirement is also much more complex than we typically discuss, as the time that matters is the collision time to the measured time in the detector, whereas the timing resolutions of the electronics usually quote the jitter, even though there will significant slow timing shifts due to temperature variations both in the fiber path and in the detector itself. We also have potential resources that could be brought into play if needed, and if we have smart ideas. For example, the BPMs get beam induced signal that can be brought out. This is good to the sub-picosecond level, but would suffer the same sort of drift if we bring it out of the hall, so we'd need some new concept to make use of it. Is there anyone who could give a summary from the TOF side? Specifically, I'd want some idea about: The requirement/impact of timing resolution for the physics analysis The timing impact of the T0 determination Whether it is (or might be) possible to track slow phase drifts of the clock (due to temperature) using calibrations This would likely be during the Thursday afternoon E&DAQ session. Thanks, Jeff
11:50
updates of sensors on new devices
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Simone Michele Mazza
updates of sensors on new devices
Simone Michele Mazza
11:50 - 12:10
Room: https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1617546118?pwd=qNzxLqF8Q4Mj3RerAZdVSELzEgEQzV.1